Mastering Engagement and Measuring Success

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In this episode of Sunny Side Up, Gareth Noonan interviews Alex Donics on Spotify’s evolution in mastering engagement and measuring success. Alex highlights the importance of personalisation, noting that Spotify prioritises individual user experiences. This focus on personalisation, coupled with an emphasis on the needs of creators and listeners, has contributed to Spotify’s incredible reach across 184 markets with 550 million listeners. Podcasts, especially during COVID-19, have emerged as powerful tools for topical exploration, allowing creators and brands to connect deeply with audiences. Alex dives into how Spotify has refined its strategies to offer brands effective means of engagement and debunks common myths about audio advertising’s measurability.

About the Guest

Alex is the Global Director of Demand Marketing at Spotify, where he leads a global B2B marketing team that is responsible for growing demand for Spotify Advertising. In his five years at Spotify, Alex has held leadership roles that span marketing, strategy, and partnership development. Prior to joining Spotify in 2018, Alex held several B2C marketing roles at PepsiCo, covering product innovation, channel marketing, and brand communications, working with several of the company’s most-loved trademarks. Before his time at PepsiCo, Alex spent over six years on the agency side, working in communications planning at Publicis Groupe’s Starcom Worldwide.

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Key Takeaways

• Personalisation lies at the heart of Spotify’s user experience, ensuring no two listener experiences are identical.
• By focusing on the needs and preferences of creators and listeners, Spotify has ensured consistent growth and user engagement. Their emphasis on discovery features enhances their value proposition to both parties.
• Spotify’s reach across 184 markets and 550 million listeners is a testament to its adaptability and understanding of global music and audio content trends.
• Collaboration and open-mindedness in leadership can lead to unexpected successes, as in the evolution of the “Discover Weekly” feature.
• Personalisation isn’t just a feature—it’s a core philosophy that drives growth and user loyalty.
• While scale is essential, ensuring quality reach for brands is paramount for impactful advertising.
• Audio shouldn’t be boxed into just upper-funnel campaigns; it has potential across various marketing funnels.
• Successful audio campaign measurement hinges on three pivotal metrics: reach, resonance, and reaction.
• Effective communication is more than just data-driven precision; it’s about connecting with audiences on a deeper level.

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“What drives our engagement is that we always put the creator and the listener first.”

– Alex Donics

Highlights from the Episode

Can you share a quick summary of the evolution of Spotify into the world-class brand it is today?

Spotify has been around for 17 years and has grown to have over 550 million listeners in 184 markets. Its success is attributed to sound’s unique engagement capability, the rise in audio content creators, the diversification of content types, and increased digital device usage. Personalisation of user experience and focusing on creators and listeners have been critical to its consistent engagement levels.

How do you navigate complexities to consistently develop engaging content and foster meaningful connections with your audience in a consumer economy and a challenging advertising landscape?

Because music and media are highly saturated, personalisation is a priority for enhancing user experience. Spotify facilitates billions of content discoveries daily, highlighted by tools like “Discover Weekly.” Introducing innovations such as the end-of-year “Wrapped” feature and the “Spotify DJ” experience, driven by AI, enhances the automatic content curation process. Spotify has also adjusted its interface, mainly the home feed, to give users more tailored recommendations. This commitment to personalisation is fundamental for the platform’s expansion and user retention.

In the last 3-4 years, notably during COVID, why has podcasting surged in popularity on platforms like Spotify? How has it influenced the prominence of new industry voices and become a metric for gauging a candidate’s industry knowledge?

Since 2018, podcasting has been growing, providing a platform for deep exploration of topics and unique perspectives. Podcasts help creators connect with fans and allow brands to engage audiences in distraction-free environments. The medium offers listeners a break from digital noise, demonstrating its power and influence across the industry, including B2B.

Could you share some insights on how Spotify utilises personalisation and discovery-driven strategies to create a compelling consumer experience that keeps them returning for more?

Advertisers are offered a range of methods, from prominent sponsorships to targeted programmatic channels. The platform recognises the power of podcasts in shaping societal dialogues and encourages brands to align with influential voices. With the 2021 launch of Spotify’s audience network, brands are granted superior reach and addressability. Collaborating with major SSPs and extending a self-serve option, Spotify caters to large and small advertisers.

How does Spotify challenge the notion that audio is not measurable? What comprehensive measurement capabilities do you offer that span top-of-funnel and lower-funnel metrics to provide valuable insights to advertisers?

Programmatic audio, akin to connected TV, is evolving in measurement standards. Contrary to misconceptions, audio is adaptable for various marketing funnels, not just the upper funnel. Spotify segments their measurement strategies into reach, resonance, and reaction. Collaborations with third-party firms offer objective campaign evaluations, while Spotify’s advertising analytics provide a comprehensive measurement suite. Spotify champions an advanced audio measurement platform, recognising the significance of proving ROI in today’s marketing landscape.

Could you provide insights into the targeting capabilities available for specific categories and podcasts on your platform, and what kind of reporting options are provided to advertisers for measuring the performance of their campaigns?

Spotify works with partners using a three-pronged approach to targeting: understanding the demographics of listeners, their content preferences, and their listening habits. Daily listening sessions in the U.S. exceed two hours, providing brands with extended engagement opportunities. Additionally, the platform offers custom targeting solutions and has innovated in the podcast sector with the 2020 introduction of streaming ad insertion technology, enabling precision in reporting and targeting.

Which verticals are B2B advertisers spending the most on? Do specific sectors like FinTech or large B2B SaaS platforms have distinct buying profiles or trends?

Contrary to many assumptions, Spotify’s listener base is wider than just the Gen Z demographic. Despite the brand’s reputation as a cultural influencer and its vast music catalogue, it attracts an array of verticals. Alex explained that Spotify’s user base encompasses listeners from financial services, technology, telco, and food and beverage sectors. With the platform’s expansive and diversified content, brands increasingly leverage Spotify to reach audiences ranging from Gen Z to senior business professionals.

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